Is there a difference in appropiation betweeen a white person that gets salon dreads vs one that just doesn't brush their hair? Like the former could be trying to imitate poc but the latter is something that happens to everyone that doesnt groom their hair much
Ok serious question: Is it appropiation for a white person to mimic the style of white group that hasn't always been considered white or have been considered more marginal when compared to other whites? Like I'm asking about a non-Slav wearing Slavic style clothing or a hipster that imitates the style of Appalachian mountain people.
yeah i mean really we ought to be denormalizing becoming-white and assimilation, because at some point or another no one was ‘white’ or whatever so why naturalize that shit. to exoticize others who are potentially white is enacting this power dynamic that like hierarchicalizes relationships between different forms of representation of ‘culture’ and ‘authenticity’ and shit like that. basically it’s letting you know that like slavicness is pre-white, and as such, it’s deployable, it’s indexable, you know? it’s rendered historical and discrete in a way that normalizes whiteness by placing it in the background of shit that doesn’t need to be read.
like, yeah, slavicness is something you can gesture towards, and that gesturing reinforces a specific set of possible moves of self-representation and indexing (you can exoticize your own culture in various ways, etc). this set of representational moves or whatever ends up buttressing whiteness, because it lets whiteness go un-historicized and universalized.
i think i basically get yr point but one serious question cos i really have a hard time undertanding (i'm not from usa): where does c.a. start? does sb with 1 cherokee grandparent have more right to use cherokee practices than sb with one cherokee greatgrandparent? may a cherokee use iroquis practices? may a hispan. amer. wear dreads? may a White person read pushkin (he was Black)? may a White person recite pushkin on stage? those feathers are fckn obvious but what about less obvious things?
there’s no real strict line. it’s a question of like, mimesis you know? like, at what point do animals successfully mimic predators and shit to get away from scary situations?
cultural appropriation can exist at the level of like fucking, elements of design and so on but very often it’s more of a gestalt kind of thing.
i wonder if in a u.s.-american context muslims could generally be considered as p.o.c. as they are clearly discriminated against and if so if that meant that conversion to islam (which islam on principal considers as possible for everyone no matter what heritage) would somehow "un-White" White people. do you have an opinion on this?
i mean there are a lot of white-read muslims. like, in eastern europe, so not all ‘white’ muslims are converts in the first place.
but also, for white converts, depending on whether you’re a muhajibah, or if you’re a muslim bro who dresses the part, with the beard and the short pants and so on, yeah, you’re very likely to be read as a failure of whiteness. so while you won’t be read as a poc for being a white muslim, you will probably be seen as a race traitor by properly judeo-christian subjects (and even jews are borderline white in a lot of ways).
really though, i mean the texture of whiteness is very frayed.
Your blog used to be really wonderful... people would ask real questions, and you would respond with meaningful, smart, well thought out answers. Now it's a bit of a joke. When you respond the way you have been... with your one word or sentence answers, often really offensive... it's really hard to take your previous, intelligent resoonses seriously. Not that the questions are any better. Just sayin'.
yeah this went downhill but i mean fuck pretty much anyone who asks me questions
Serious question: What about blacks who wear locs but are not rastafarian? I am asking because I am black and considering locs but do not want to appropriate.
i mean it’s ultimately up to you, but black hairstyles are obviously meaningful beyond specific religious-cultural associations, so you can just like, ponder why you want dreads, the logistics of it, the meaningfulness of the hairstyle to you, and then decide what’s up. also you can be glad you’re not white because then no matter what you ended up deciding to do, you’d still suck.
umm i guess natty bo, maybe some dogfish heads, hook and ladder, good shit, yknow. nah i wont be dead. basically do i have to worry about being a racist sexist ableist culturally appropriating privilege denying wealthy ass white male if i dont talk with anyone? ps: im down to drink in a submarine at the bottom of the marinara trench too, that would be tight
I don't think Iggy Azalea is racist. Clueless? Yeah. I don't know, I feel weird about white people being up in arms about it. Seems like some people really need to check their privilege, at least she realizes she was wrong.
what part of calling iggy azalea racist is reason to tell someone to “check their privilege”? are you fucking serious
First off, I love your blog. A very good friend of mine who was Indian actually died about 2 weeks ago and I haven't really known how to deal with it. She was always very proud of her Hindu culture and donned beautiful bindis, some more decorative and some more traditional. Regardless, she always looked awesome. Following her death, I've felt compelled to wear a bindi of my own in her honor despite being of mixed Latin and European descent. It just feels right, right now. Am I wrong to do so?
This is the stupidest shit. Cultures intermingle and "appropriate" things from each other all the time. You are some young, pretentious little shit who's looking for something to feel outraged/pretentious about because in modern hipster circles you're not cool if you're not critical. fall in well, discover some band no one will ever know about, wear skinny jeans so tight your nutz pop, etc. etc. fuck off.
i think ur realky a white man, as u appear to ridicule the fact that cultural appropriation exists with your responses. u seem to imply that it dont exist and u mock the idea tht sum1 cud be racist. if u wanna be racist, whitey, do it openly or r u scared? fucking white ppl. fuck u.
My friend (we are both white) hand made a dream catcher for me for my birthday. It made me super uncomfortable because, on one hand, there's obviously some serious cultural appropriation going on there. On the other hand, she went out of her way to make me a gift and I really don't think she knew what she was doing. I didn't want to be a bitch or hurt her feelings by not accepting it. Should I talk to her about it? I have no idea how to bring it up.
A professor (who happened to be filipina) told me that rape didn't exist in the Americas until Europeans came and that white people don't have culture except for violence. The best we whites can hope to be is "non-white white people" in her words by learning from non-white cultures. How can I do this without appropriating? kthnxbai
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CULTURAL APPROPRIATION AND CULTURAL APPRECIATION. All cultures appropriate. Maybe we could appreciate though, instead? I understand it's in insult that hipsters wear head-dresses/saris/crosses etc. to people of those beliefs when its purely worn for fashion. But what if someone not from that culture, but appreciates it, knows it meaning, for example. Is that truly offensive? I think that anyone from any ethnicity should be able to choose what they believe in.
Did you know that Johnny Depp is going to be playing Tanto in the upcoming film "The Lone Ranger" next year? I'm rather disturbed by the movie poster (Johnny Depp with a painted face and a crow...hat?) and I thought you might also find it offensive. I know Johnny Depp has claimed to have Cherokee ancestry (because that's never been said before) but I'm still really uncomfortable. Also, it's financially backed by Disney. Thoughts?
johnny depp is less sexy as his bullshit increases.
Hi, I was thinking of getting a mandala tattooed on me. I designed it myself, and I am very familiar with the meaning. My family were practicing Buddhist for 7 or 8 years. My parents went on pilgrimages, we started a monastery, we took refuge in a lama, Guru Rimpoche; we grew up as buddhist, it was our religion. We do not practice buddhism so much anymore, but we still take the teachings and values and apply them to our lives. But now I am thinking twice about this tattoo.
Bill Reid, Haida Grizzly bear print as a tattoo. As a non-native and with awareness of cultural appropriation and overall indigenous North American exploitation. I tracked down the president of the Haida Nation and articulated my various personal reasons for desiring such a piece. Got approval and acceptance from both him and the artists granddaughter. I am an American-mut, from a mixture of ethnicities. Your thoughts on this endeavor?
I'm genuinely fascinated with the history and such of shrunken heads and head shrinking and the Jivaro. I look at this stuff not as a "cool morbid oddity" but as a genuine interest in history - and a reminder of how white people caused the slaughter of many for the sake of having this discussion piece in their homes. I was genuinely repulsed to see that most of the "shrunken head" tag on tumblr consists of white people with shrunken head tattoos. What are your views on this? (cont. next post)
(cont. from previous post) - And would it be upsetting for someone like me, being white, to be up doing speeches about this topic like I do? And to be so into the topic and deep in research of someone elses culture?
So I'm not native but there was a party at my school w/ the theme western bros and navahoes. When I heard that one of my casual friends attended it actually broke my heart. It upsets me that at a supposedly progressive school people can still be incredibly oppressive pieces of shit. What should I do to make people realize they're being racist assholes?
so, my boyfriend's Native (but passes as white most of the time) and he really wants to dread his hair and I tried talking to him casually about how it's kind of really appropriative and he gets the whole thing about Rastafarian appropriation and says that he wants to do it more because he thinks it looks good and also his hair is super thick and coarse and could probably dread really easily. halp?
I mean, if you’re White, you probably should just peace and let colored people deal with their own like, racialized appearances and presentation cuz like, otherwise it’s patronizing?
and if you’re a poc, then having a conversation where you’re like, clear about your opinions on the politics and significance of dreads, while at the same time listening to his, will hopefully get y’all to a place where you understand where the other person’s coming from and make a decision based on that.